<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: There are no good enterprise mobiles&#8230;</title> <atom:link href="http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:55:52 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Phil</title><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/comment-page-1/#comment-2221</link> <dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:34:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thereallymobileproject.com/?p=2367#comment-2221</guid> <description>Hmmm you want a enterprise phone but you don&#039;t want to pay ... good luck with that!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm you want a enterprise phone but you don&#39;t want to pay &#8230; good luck with that!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MobileInfoPlanet</title><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/comment-page-1/#comment-2065</link> <dc:creator>MobileInfoPlanet</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:30:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thereallymobileproject.com/?p=2367#comment-2065</guid> <description>Apologies for the late reply.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would probably start looking at the Samsung B7330. I have not had the chance yet to try it out myself, but the specs are quite good and it&#039;s a device I would even consider for myself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You said that your company have used the Treo which of course runs on WM Pro, which means there are bound to be some usability issues (e.g. not being able to do everything without touching the screen). As the Samsung runs WM Standard you won&#039;t have that problem at least, and WM Standard is in my experience noticeably snappier than WM Pro (excluding the HD2, of course!).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You said people complained (rightfully so in my opinion) about the confusing menus on S60. WM Standard&#039;s menus are much simpler in comparison, plus they are index based which means that they are much quicker to navigate: every option is always just one click away - once you learn the indexes of commonly used operations you literally fly through the menus. With the B7330 you also get a 320x320 screen that you had on your Treos.&lt;br&gt;The downside with WM Standard is that you won&#039;t be able sync notes natively, though there are 3rd party solutions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Along similar lines you have the HTC Snap, though it&#039;s a little low on memory (both ROM and RAM), but depending on how you use it it might not be an issue for you. The general consensus though seems to be that it&#039;s slightly faster than the Samsung overall (I have not been able to confirm this myself). Its &quot;Inner Circle&quot; function is aimed precisely at corporate users which you might find useful (though again it depends on your usage).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the WM Pro side I think there are very few options right now for corporate users, with the Touch Pro being the only alternative. If you don&#039;t mind sliders (I do) then by all means.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I think that in the end you have to be aware of that you *will* have to make some compromises, you will not find a device that covers each and every need you may have and that all the employees will love. Once you accept that, and you define what features are essential or important to your company and employees, you will be well on your way to make a decision, as that will allow you to discard many platforms/devices.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good luck!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for the late reply.</p><p>I would probably start looking at the Samsung B7330. I have not had the chance yet to try it out myself, but the specs are quite good and it&#39;s a device I would even consider for myself.</p><p>You said that your company have used the Treo which of course runs on WM Pro, which means there are bound to be some usability issues (e.g. not being able to do everything without touching the screen). As the Samsung runs WM Standard you won&#39;t have that problem at least, and WM Standard is in my experience noticeably snappier than WM Pro (excluding the HD2, of course!).</p><p>You said people complained (rightfully so in my opinion) about the confusing menus on S60. WM Standard&#39;s menus are much simpler in comparison, plus they are index based which means that they are much quicker to navigate: every option is always just one click away &#8211; once you learn the indexes of commonly used operations you literally fly through the menus. With the B7330 you also get a 320&#215;320 screen that you had on your Treos.<br />The downside with WM Standard is that you won&#39;t be able sync notes natively, though there are 3rd party solutions.</p><p>Along similar lines you have the HTC Snap, though it&#39;s a little low on memory (both ROM and RAM), but depending on how you use it it might not be an issue for you. The general consensus though seems to be that it&#39;s slightly faster than the Samsung overall (I have not been able to confirm this myself). Its &#8220;Inner Circle&#8221; function is aimed precisely at corporate users which you might find useful (though again it depends on your usage).</p><p>On the WM Pro side I think there are very few options right now for corporate users, with the Touch Pro being the only alternative. If you don&#39;t mind sliders (I do) then by all means.</p><p>But I think that in the end you have to be aware of that you *will* have to make some compromises, you will not find a device that covers each and every need you may have and that all the employees will love. Once you accept that, and you define what features are essential or important to your company and employees, you will be well on your way to make a decision, as that will allow you to discard many platforms/devices.</p><p>Good luck!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mobileyog</title><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/comment-page-1/#comment-2064</link> <dc:creator>mobileyog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:10:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thereallymobileproject.com/?p=2367#comment-2064</guid> <description>I think You should try to get Nokia Eseries tested with small group of users first, work with them, resolve their issues. This will help to remove not so real -ve feelings.&lt;br&gt;But I think currently any decent WM phone will be great choice. You can have look at Samsung C6625, its good with QWERTY , but WM 6.1.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think You should try to get Nokia Eseries tested with small group of users first, work with them, resolve their issues. This will help to remove not so real -ve feelings.<br />But I think currently any decent WM phone will be great choice. You can have look at Samsung C6625, its good with QWERTY , but WM 6.1.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CGiboi</title><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/comment-page-1/#comment-2060</link> <dc:creator>CGiboi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:52:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thereallymobileproject.com/?p=2367#comment-2060</guid> <description>I believe the negative feedback comes from their consumer hearts, not their enterprise ones. They should see beyond the looks (both of the device and the UI) and more into features and then compare.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the E63, I preferred the E71 mostly because of the build and the few extra features. As I said, the E71 is not perfect, but it&#039;s the best one.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the negative feedback comes from their consumer hearts, not their enterprise ones. They should see beyond the looks (both of the device and the UI) and more into features and then compare.</p><p>As for the E63, I preferred the E71 mostly because of the build and the few extra features. As I said, the E71 is not perfect, but it&#39;s the best one.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DominicTravers</title><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/comment-page-1/#comment-2058</link> <dc:creator>DominicTravers</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:29:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thereallymobileproject.com/?p=2367#comment-2058</guid> <description>Samsung are aware of your requirements and will make a plasticy email centric phone to please your bean counters! &lt;br&gt;The Android 2.0 mail for exchange is supposed to be very good, the Moto Droid/Milestone could present a true lesser of evils. The INQ Chat could be amusing...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samsung are aware of your requirements and will make a plasticy email centric phone to please your bean counters! <br />The Android 2.0 mail for exchange is supposed to be very good, the Moto Droid/Milestone could present a true lesser of evils. The INQ Chat could be amusing&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ARJWright</title><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/comment-page-1/#comment-2057</link> <dc:creator>ARJWright</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:20:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thereallymobileproject.com/?p=2367#comment-2057</guid> <description>Nice list, but this depends on a few things:&lt;br&gt;- what are you using to admin mobile devices that aren&#039;t BES. If using Exchange, then pretty much any recent WinMobile, iPhone, Nokia, and BB set of devices would do. Its not really that hard to support them all since Exchange does so and is device agnostic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you are concerned with user&#039;s actually knowing about their device, this would be the best route, as it would leave basic support in their hands, and then the implementation of a mobile device policy would ensure that corporate information on said device is up to specs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If users choose not to bring their own device, then your offerings need to sit on the Nokia and WinMobile sides of things for device and admin consistency (speaking Exchange only).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice list, but this depends on a few things:<br />- what are you using to admin mobile devices that aren&#39;t BES. If using Exchange, then pretty much any recent WinMobile, iPhone, Nokia, and BB set of devices would do. Its not really that hard to support them all since Exchange does so and is device agnostic.</p><p>If you are concerned with user&#39;s actually knowing about their device, this would be the best route, as it would leave basic support in their hands, and then the implementation of a mobile device policy would ensure that corporate information on said device is up to specs.</p><p>If users choose not to bring their own device, then your offerings need to sit on the Nokia and WinMobile sides of things for device and admin consistency (speaking Exchange only).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ben Smith</title><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/comment-page-1/#comment-2055</link> <dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:18:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thereallymobileproject.com/?p=2367#comment-2055</guid> <description>I think that&#039;s where we&#039;re headed sadly.  Where&#039;s my mobile nirvana of total connectivity I was promised though? :-(</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#39;s where we&#39;re headed sadly.  Where&#39;s my mobile nirvana of total connectivity I was promised though? <img src='http://thereallymobileproject.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ben Smith</title><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/comment-page-1/#comment-2054</link> <dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:17:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thereallymobileproject.com/?p=2367#comment-2054</guid> <description>Agreed and the E71 (or even the E63 which I think is great value) were my preferences, but we need the users to accept and embrace the solution and I was amazed how vehement the negative feedback about S60 was... shows how much I take for granted.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed and the E71 (or even the E63 which I think is great value) were my preferences, but we need the users to accept and embrace the solution and I was amazed how vehement the negative feedback about S60 was&#8230; shows how much I take for granted.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ben Smith</title><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/comment-page-1/#comment-2053</link> <dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:15:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thereallymobileproject.com/?p=2367#comment-2053</guid> <description>Any recommendations for good-performing devices?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any recommendations for good-performing devices?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ben Smith</title><link>http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/12/there-are-no-good-enterprise-mobiles/comment-page-1/#comment-2052</link> <dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:06:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thereallymobileproject.com/?p=2367#comment-2052</guid> <description>...and an awesome video it was too :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dumb-phone wise the options are great... problem is all our users have &#039;smartphone&#039; requirements.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and an awesome video it was too <img src='http://thereallymobileproject.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Dumb-phone wise the options are great&#8230; problem is all our users have &#39;smartphone&#39; requirements.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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