App Stores: How hard can it be? [Nokia Ovi Store]

by Ben Smith on 26th May 2009

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“How hard can it be?”… In my experience, a question asked only by those without a clue… But it does appear that application stores are trickier to get off the ground that you might think.

Welcome to the Ovi Store: three sets of delightful legal-ese to agree to

With the launch of Nokia’s OVI store today many, including myself, were expecting - even hoping - that Nokia would re-assert its authority and roll out the ‘mother of all app stores’. The signs have certainly been positive - built-in operator billing (where operators wanted it) and a market that put content and apps side-by-side in an even more seamless way than Apple’s effort were good news, but now it’s live I worry Nokia are clutching defeat from the jaws of victory.

The glitches experienced this morning are certainly annoyances and Nokia will rightly get a kicking for allowing the service to be swamped by user requests, but it’s the design and usability of the service - described as ever by the excellent coverage from our friends at All About Symbian - that really worries me. My own observations are similar to theirs:

It’s slow… oh dear god it’s slow on mobile - Not slow as in ‘overloaded’ (although it is)… Slow as in poorly designed. Testing on my (now ancient) N82 requires network downloads when switching between each screen. On both Apple and Android platforms the presentation is done locally giving a sensation of speed, if not faster usability

OVI Store at launch: Ringtones and more ringtones.

The launch content is pretty disappointing - Sure, Gravity (the impressive Twitter client) and Shozu (for sharing and sending pictures and videos), two of my must-have S60 apps pop-up in the right places (although the Shozu entry appears broken right now) but it’s disappointingly easy to get to the £3 ring-tones and other junk content. Right now, I’m being shown 960 items for my N82 of which 894 are paid-for and there’s nothing it appears I can do to stop Ovi Store suggesting Hannah Montana (not a fan BTW) as items 3 and 4 on the ‘suggested for me’ page. There’s only 22 items in the ‘business’ category, 11 items in ‘social networks’, 7 in ‘photo and video’ (isn’t this what N-Series is supposed to be all about?), but 124 items in ‘ring tones’. Obviously this is a store for everyone - ring tones are likely to have a wider interest than e-mail syncing software - but why isn’t Nokia Messaging, Mail for Exchange or Ovi Maps available in the catalogue?

Ovi Store - Doesn't have Nokia apps

No Ovi Maps in Ovi Store, but how about some Star Trek wallpaper?

There’s no trial-version option or time-limited demos - A criticism of all other app stores, Nokia should have had this on the agenda. Roadsync, my preferred Microsoft Exchange syncing application, is £26.99 - pricey, but well worth it after a 30-day trial proved its value. However from the OVI store it’s all or nothing - no demo, no link to a limited version. Nada.

Ovi Store: RoadSync Push Email & PIM Data

Roadsync customers appear to enjoy 'Sexy Buritto Talk'

Recommendations can be a bit weird - Taking the example of Roadsync, a business application for synchronising enterprise e-mail, I’m not sure why a game ‘World Championship Pool 2009‘ is the 2nd ‘related’ recommendation or how happy Roadsync’s vendor Dataviz will be that the first item on 2nd page of recommendations is ‘Burrito Sexy Talk‘ (don’t hold your breath for a review on The Really Mobile Project of that last one…)

So far, so disappointing… With the ‘edutainment’ style ads that Apple run for their App Store, lots of people - including those who don’t have iPhones - have a very high expectation of what an app store should look and feel like (even if Apple’s ads do paint a very rose-tinted view of the process). Ovi store has a fair way to go yet…. Nokia are on the brink of ballsing this up.

  • http://www.samismail.com/blog Sam Ismail

    Wow, not a good start after all the hype.

    Really thorough pulling apart of some of the flaws though Ben. You really have to wonder who’s been looking at Ovi from a holistic user experience point of view (if anyone). Some of these things are basic “must-do’s”.

    Hopefully they’ll iron this sucka out. Soon.

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  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    There really do seem to be some UI issues on the mobile client: ‘Channels’ and ‘Categories’ are confusing, although ‘Channels’ seems to be empty… However, once viewing a category such as ‘Business’ it’s not possible to exit that category without switching sideways to ‘Games’ (for example) and back again…

    Yuk.

  • royster

    Just been playing around with the client on an E71 - I don’t hate the client usability, well not yet

    I found clicking on categories (once you are in a category) takes you back to the category menu, not ideal but usable (I had not noticed it until reading the comments)

    I guess its a bit early to be judging the content - some seems quite expensive, its either free or a bit of jump to something you would need to think about before hitting the buy button. I do hope more stuff does turn up like the youtube client etc etc

  • http://www.samismail.com samismail

    Wow, not a good start after all the hype.Really thorough pulling apart of some of the flaws though Ben. You really have to wonder who's been looking at Ovi from a holistic user experience point of view (if anyone). Some of these things are basic “must-do's”. Hopefully they'll iron this sucka out. Soon.

  • http://www.samismail.com samismail

    Wow, not a good start after all the hype.

    Really thorough pulling apart of some of the flaws though Ben. You really have to wonder who's been looking at Ovi from a holistic user experience point of view (if anyone). Some of these things are basic “must-do's”.

    Hopefully they'll iron this sucka out. Soon.

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    There really do seem to be some UI issues on the mobile client: 'Channels' and 'Categories' are confusing, although 'Channels' seems to be empty… However, once viewing a category such as 'Business' it's not possible to exit that category without switching sideways to 'Games' (for example) and back again…Yuk.

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    There really do seem to be some UI issues on the mobile client: 'Channels' and 'Categories' are confusing, although 'Channels' seems to be empty… However, once viewing a category such as 'Business' it's not possible to exit that category without switching sideways to 'Games' (for example) and back again…

    Yuk.

  • royster

    Just been playing around with the client on an E71 - I don't hate the client usability, well not yetI found clicking on categories (once you are in a category) takes you back to the category menu, not ideal but usable (I had not noticed it until reading the comments)I guess its a bit early to be judging the content - some seems quite expensive, its either free or a bit of jump to something you would need to think about before hitting the buy button. I do hope more stuff does turn up like the youtube client etc etc

  • royster

    Just been playing around with the client on an E71 - I don't hate the client usability, well not yet

    I found clicking on categories (once you are in a category) takes you back to the category menu, not ideal but usable (I had not noticed it until reading the comments)

    I guess its a bit early to be judging the content - some seems quite expensive, its either free or a bit of jump to something you would need to think about before hitting the buy button. I do hope more stuff does turn up like the youtube client etc etc

  • http://brokenfloppy.com cypress

    I can’t help but feel that Nokia is deteriorating (as are other GSM makers). I think I might end up biting the bullet and getting an iPhone if they release a new one. At least here in the States there is great support, a huge number of developers, and it does a lot (even if the hardware is limited compared to my N85 and N82).

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  • http://nokiadna.com Micky

    Apple App Store = 1 Phone 1 OS
    Nokia Ovi Store 70 Phones, multiple OS, many billing methods, the list of differences are huge.!

    I will wait a few weeks before I comment any further, as its still ongoing rollout to other countries, Finland included. I have however managed to get the client on one of my devices by way of a UK sim, and thus far, experiences are positive, having purchased two applications, downloaded, and installed smoothly.

    Yes, there is bound to be teething problems with a project as Global as this, and yes, things do get overlooked. Checkout the recent Nokia Conversations post from James, he pretty much puts the whole thing into perspective.

    Another thing I have noticed, mainly on Twitter, and some sites reporting Nokias Ovi Store fail, are all coming from the direct competition, Apple fans. You quite simply, as said, cannot compare the two, simple, totally different.

  • MarkW

    I was appalled at first yesterday at how disappointing it was, though after spending an hour or so browsing last night I was slightly less annoyed. I even paid to download a couple of apps.

    Don’t know if it was just my experience, but the store seemed to get better populated by later in the day. I agree with all of Ben’s criticisms but, looking on the bright side, we have a store now and, hopefully, things can only get better. A developer I talk to on Twitter suggested v2.0 was already in the works at Nokia. I would definitely like to see local cacheing, rather than having to reload every time you move between pages and categories.

    Fingers crossed for them to get this right - though as it’s Nokia I won’t be holding my breath.

  • http://brokenfloppy.com cypress

    I can't help but feel that Nokia is deteriorating (as are other GSM makers). I think I might end up biting the bullet and getting an iPhone if they release a new one. At least here in the States there is great support, a huge number of developers, and it does a lot (even if the hardware is limited compared to my N85 and N82).

  • http://brokenfloppy.com cypress

    I can't help but feel that Nokia is deteriorating (as are other GSM makers). I think I might end up biting the bullet and getting an iPhone if they release a new one. At least here in the States there is great support, a huge number of developers, and it does a lot (even if the hardware is limited compared to my N85 and N82).

  • http://whatleydude.com James Whatley

    All this chitter chatter, I guess I should have a play with the store myself. For some reason however, I can’t get it to work on this damn HTC Magic…

    ;)

  • munkimatt

    Well it wasn’t the most dignified entry into the world…

    My first issue was a lack of the installation file in Download! I tried threw wifi, I tried through my standard network data connection…nothing. “Not a worry Jones,” I cheerfully told myself, “hop onto the PC and go on the website!”

    This was, quite simply, an exercise in futility. Constant white screens. Pages laoding forever. On the odd occasion I did manage to get on and log in Ovi Store instanty decided to forget I had typed in my password and booted me back to the log in screen. Marveloso!

    “Aha, there is also a mobile site!” Off I trot to the .mobi to be confronted with…white screens and constantly loading pages.

    By this point it’s fair to say I’m in officially what can be described as ‘a huff’. I can’t get on the two sites and I have no mobile app. The Store is closed.

    However at this point I had a moment of genius! Out went my T-mobile sim and in went a colleagues Voda (to whom I tried in vain to explain why I was doing this), loaded up Download! and BINGO! There is the installation file for Ovi Store! Which lead me to say the following…

    WTF!!!

    It’s not a frigging global rollout if you’ve still got operators sat round a negotiating table going “Erm sorry chaps but we’re none too sure about this Ovi thingy.” This is the UK we’re talking about here, one of your biggest markets but you’ve not quite got it all sorted with one of the carriers? Here’s an idea…LETS US KNOW!!! Let me know so I don’t spend a good chunk of my morning dicking about attempting to get something on my phone that just isn’t available! Blog it, Tweet it, use smoke signals and carrier pigeons, tattoo it on Ben Smiths arse and hang him up in the Vatican, I honestly couldn’t give a toss but do *something*.

    Anyway, so now I’ve actually got it there I can have a play and the best way to describe it is ‘unremarkable’. Ben has completely hit the nail on the head with his reasons above. The app itself does exactly what it’s supposed to do, it’s an content delivery system and when it delivers it does so fine. The issue comes when we’re looking at the content itself.

    So far it’s looking pretty slim. Not a huge amount there at all. I managed to find 3 things and amazingly each and every one had an issue!

    SMS Preview - requires the sending of an international text to register and I think it was a 14 day trial despite it saying free. Come on Nokia, didn’t we get over this with the farcical Download! app?
    Twittix - didn’t get a registration code
    FlyScreen - Nokia had uploaded an earlier version to the Store with limited functionality (I must added, FlyScreen looks like it has potential and the developers got in contact with me very quick to explain the issue, I’m impressed)

    So my 3 things don’t really do what it says on the tin, lets have a look at it…Well I can have a shit load of Hannah Montana or Star Trek stuff but not really that much else. But why does it think I want this? I have downloaded a Twitter client, a homescreen utility and an SMS application, why does Ovi Store think that these items of content are in some way related to a selection of ringtones and trailers?

    There are a few things that I fancy but I refuse to drop money on something before I can try it, but lo and behold, Ovi Store has no trial periods. So I have to pop over to the developers website, get the trial version from there, utterly bypassing Ovi Store. If I like it, quess where I’ll buy it from…yup, probably that website.

    I can excuse the Store being a touch ropey at launch, I can excuse excuse the app not being utterly amazing at launch because these things happen but you just don’t launch an App Store when you’ve got no frigging apps. And don’t use the soft launch excuse, we all know it’s bollocks.

    The chaps at Nokia better pull their fingers out or Ovi Store is going the same way as N-gage. Overflowing with promise, very little to back it up.

  • http://whatleydude.com James Whatley

    I just had a coughing/laughing fit at:

    “…tattoo it on Ben Smiths arse and hang him up in the Vatican…”

    If I’m going to die laughing, can I have some warning next time? ;D

  • Anonymous

    rant of the year goes to Munkimatt!. Like James, when i read that comment i nearly cried laughing.

  • munkimatt

    There you go Really Mobile Project team, a Rant Of The Year Award.

    Get involved.

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    For the avoidance of doubt: My backside is not, nor ever will be, available as an advertising medium for Nokia.

    :-)

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    Dear Nokia,

    This is the feedback you should be listening to:

    * It’s not about it being slow or a bit broken on launch day.
    * It’s not about people saying Apple ‘is teh b3st’.
    * It’s not about jumping on ‘a bandwagon’ and kicking the big boys.

    It’s about your most enthusiastic advocates feeling disappointed and frustrated that the service which so many want to succeed (myself included) looks a bit half-baked on the day you decided to wheel it out for an international press launch.

    So don’t be tempted to play the ‘what did you expect with all those users and devices’ card and listen to the important messages in amongst the launch-day noise…

    Dammit. That should have been a post.

  • Steve Devo

    I have finaly installed the OVI app, and guess what it is still 7 clicks from the home screen to launching the app, I don’t have that many apps installed.
    they need to fix this, for exampl eoffering to put it on the home screen …

    Steve (E66 Owner)

  • http://mickyfin.vox.com/ Micky

    I will wait a few weeks before I comment any further, as its still ongoing rollout to other countries, Finland included. I have however managed to get the client on one of my devices by way of a UK sim, and thus far, experiences are positive, having purchased two applications, downloaded, and installed smoothly.Yes, there is bound to be teething problems with a project as Global as this, and yes, things do get overlooked. Checkout the recent Nokia Conversations post from James, he pretty much puts the whole thing into perspective.

  • http://mickyfin.vox.com/ Micky

    I will wait a few weeks before I comment any further, as its still ongoing rollout to other countries, Finland included. I have however managed to get the client on one of my devices by way of a UK sim, and thus far, experiences are positive, having purchased two applications, downloaded, and installed smoothly.

    Yes, there is bound to be teething problems with a project as Global as this, and yes, things do get overlooked. Checkout the recent Nokia Conversations post from James, he pretty much puts the whole thing into perspective.

  • MarkW

    I was appalled at first yesterday at how disappointing it was, though after spending an hour or so browsing last night I was slightly less annoyed. I even paid to download a couple of apps.Don't know if it was just my experience, but the store seemed to get better populated by later in the day. I agree with all of Ben's criticisms but, looking on the bright side, we have a store now and, hopefully, things can only get better. A developer I talk to on Twitter suggested v2.0 was already in the works at Nokia. I would definitely like to see local cacheing, rather than having to reload every time you move between pages and categories.Fingers crossed for them to get this right - though as it's Nokia I won't be holding my breath.

  • MarkW

    I was appalled at first yesterday at how disappointing it was, though after spending an hour or so browsing last night I was slightly less annoyed. I even paid to download a couple of apps.

    Don't know if it was just my experience, but the store seemed to get better populated by later in the day. I agree with all of Ben's criticisms but, looking on the bright side, we have a store now and, hopefully, things can only get better. A developer I talk to on Twitter suggested v2.0 was already in the works at Nokia. I would definitely like to see local cacheing, rather than having to reload every time you move between pages and categories.

    Fingers crossed for them to get this right - though as it's Nokia I won't be holding my breath.

  • http://whatleydude.com James Whatley

    All this chitter chatter, I guess I should have a play with the store myself. For some reason however, I can't get it to work on this damn HTC Magic… ;)

  • http://whatleydude.com James Whatley

    All this chitter chatter, I guess I should have a play with the store myself. For some reason however, I can't get it to work on this damn HTC Magic…

    ;)

  • munkimatt

    Well it wasn't the most dignified entry into the world…My first issue was a lack of the installation file in Download! I tried threw wifi, I tried through my standard network data connection…nothing. “Not a worry Jones,” I cheerfully told myself, “hop onto the PC and go on the website!”This was, quite simply, an exercise in futility. Constant white screens. Pages laoding forever. On the odd occasion I did manage to get on and log in Ovi Store instanty decided to forget I had typed in my password and booted me back to the log in screen. Marveloso!”Aha, there is also a mobile site!” Off I trot to the .mobi to be confronted with…white screens and constantly loading pages.By this point it's fair to say I'm in officially what can be described as 'a huff'. I can't get on the two sites and I have no mobile app. The Store is closed.However at this point I had a moment of genius! Out went my T-mobile sim and in went a colleagues Voda (to whom I tried in vain to explain why I was doing this), loaded up Download! and BINGO! There is the installation file for Ovi Store! Which lead me to say the following…WTF!!!It's not a frigging global rollout if you've still got operators sat round a negotiating table going “Erm sorry chaps but we're none too sure about this Ovi thingy.” This is the UK we're talking about here, one of your biggest markets but you've not quite got it all sorted with one of the carriers? Here's an idea…LETS US KNOW!!! Let me know so I don't spend a good chunk of my morning dicking about attempting to get something on my phone that just isn't available! Blog it, Tweet it, use smoke signals and carrier pigeons, tattoo it on Ben Smiths arse and hang him up in the Vatican, I honestly couldn't give a toss but do *something*.Anyway, so now I've actually got it there I can have a play and the best way to describe it is 'unremarkable'. Ben has completely hit the nail on the head with his reasons above. The app itself does exactly what it's supposed to do, it's an content delivery system and when it delivers it does so fine. The issue comes when we're looking at the content itself.So far it's looking pretty slim. Not a huge amount there at all. I managed to find 3 things and amazingly each and every one had an issue! SMS Preview - requires the sending of an international text to register and I think it was a 14 day trial despite it saying free. Come on Nokia, didn't we get over this with the farcical Download! app?Twittix - didn't get a registration codeFlyScreen - Nokia had uploaded an earlier version to the Store with limited functionality (I must added, FlyScreen looks like it has potential and the developers got in contact with me very quick to explain the issue, I'm impressed)So my 3 things don't really do what it says on the tin, lets have a look at it…Well I can have a shit load of Hannah Montana or Star Trek stuff but not really that much else. But why does it think I want this? I have downloaded a Twitter client, a homescreen utility and an SMS application, why does Ovi Store think that these items of content are in some way related to a selection of ringtones and trailers?There are a few things that I fancy but I refuse to drop money on something before I can try it, but lo and behold, Ovi Store has no trial periods. So I have to pop over to the developers website, get the trial version from there, utterly bypassing Ovi Store. If I like it, quess where I'll buy it from…yup, probably that website.I can excuse the Store being a touch ropey at launch, I can excuse excuse the app not being utterly amazing at launch because these things happen but you just don't launch an App Store when you've got no frigging apps. And don't use the soft launch excuse, we all know it's bollocks.The chaps at Nokia better pull their fingers out or Ovi Store is going the same way as N-gage. Overflowing with promise, very little to back it up.

  • munkimatt

    Well it wasn't the most dignified entry into the world…

    My first issue was a lack of the installation file in Download! I tried threw wifi, I tried through my standard network data connection…nothing. “Not a worry Jones,” I cheerfully told myself, “hop onto the PC and go on the website!”

    This was, quite simply, an exercise in futility. Constant white screens. Pages laoding forever. On the odd occasion I did manage to get on and log in Ovi Store instanty decided to forget I had typed in my password and booted me back to the log in screen. Marveloso!

    “Aha, there is also a mobile site!” Off I trot to the .mobi to be confronted with…white screens and constantly loading pages.

    By this point it's fair to say I'm in officially what can be described as 'a huff'. I can't get on the two sites and I have no mobile app. The Store is closed.

    However at this point I had a moment of genius! Out went my T-mobile sim and in went a colleagues Voda (to whom I tried in vain to explain why I was doing this), loaded up Download! and BINGO! There is the installation file for Ovi Store! Which lead me to say the following…

    WTF!!!

    It's not a frigging global rollout if you've still got operators sat round a negotiating table going “Erm sorry chaps but we're none too sure about this Ovi thingy.” This is the UK we're talking about here, one of your biggest markets but you've not quite got it all sorted with one of the carriers? Here's an idea…LETS US KNOW!!! Let me know so I don't spend a good chunk of my morning dicking about attempting to get something on my phone that just isn't available! Blog it, Tweet it, use smoke signals and carrier pigeons, tattoo it on Ben Smiths arse and hang him up in the Vatican, I honestly couldn't give a toss but do *something*.

    Anyway, so now I've actually got it there I can have a play and the best way to describe it is 'unremarkable'. Ben has completely hit the nail on the head with his reasons above. The app itself does exactly what it's supposed to do, it's an content delivery system and when it delivers it does so fine. The issue comes when we're looking at the content itself.

    So far it's looking pretty slim. Not a huge amount there at all. I managed to find 3 things and amazingly each and every one had an issue!

    SMS Preview - requires the sending of an international text to register and I think it was a 14 day trial despite it saying free. Come on Nokia, didn't we get over this with the farcical Download! app?
    Twittix - didn't get a registration code
    FlyScreen - Nokia had uploaded an earlier version to the Store with limited functionality (I must added, FlyScreen looks like it has potential and the developers got in contact with me very quick to explain the issue, I'm impressed)

    So my 3 things don't really do what it says on the tin, lets have a look at it…Well I can have a shit load of Hannah Montana or Star Trek stuff but not really that much else. But why does it think I want this? I have downloaded a Twitter client, a homescreen utility and an SMS application, why does Ovi Store think that these items of content are in some way related to a selection of ringtones and trailers?

    There are a few things that I fancy but I refuse to drop money on something before I can try it, but lo and behold, Ovi Store has no trial periods. So I have to pop over to the developers website, get the trial version from there, utterly bypassing Ovi Store. If I like it, quess where I'll buy it from…yup, probably that website.

    I can excuse the Store being a touch ropey at launch, I can excuse excuse the app not being utterly amazing at launch because these things happen but you just don't launch an App Store when you've got no frigging apps. And don't use the soft launch excuse, we all know it's bollocks.

    The chaps at Nokia better pull their fingers out or Ovi Store is going the same way as N-gage. Overflowing with promise, very little to back it up.

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  • http://whatleydude.com James Whatley

    I just had a coughing/laughing fit at:”…tattoo it on Ben Smiths arse and hang him up in the Vatican…”If I'm going to die laughing, can I have some warning next time? ;D

  • http://whatleydude.com James Whatley

    I just had a coughing/laughing fit at:

    “…tattoo it on Ben Smiths arse and hang him up in the Vatican…”

    If I'm going to die laughing, can I have some warning next time? ;D

  • worldofnokia

    rant of the year goes to Munkimatt!. Like James, when i read that comment i nearly cried laughing.

  • worldofnokia

    rant of the year goes to Munkimatt!. Like James, when i read that comment i nearly cried laughing.

  • munkimatt

    There you go Really Mobile Project team, a Rant Of The Year Award.Get involved.

  • munkimatt

    There you go Really Mobile Project team, a Rant Of The Year Award.

    Get involved.

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    For the avoidance of doubt: My backside is not, nor ever will be, available as an advertising medium for Nokia.:-)

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    For the avoidance of doubt: My backside is not, nor ever will be, available as an advertising medium for Nokia.

    :-)

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    Dear Nokia,This is the feedback you should be listening to:* It's not about it being slow or a bit broken on launch day.* It's not about people saying Apple 'is teh b3st'.* It's not about jumping on 'a bandwagon' and kicking the big boys.It's about your most enthusiastic advocates feeling disappointed and frustrated that the service which so many want to succeed (myself included) looks a bit half-baked on the day you decided to wheel it out for an international press launch.So don't be tempted to play the 'what did you expect with all those users and devices' card and listen to the important messages in amongst the launch-day noise…Dammit. That should have been a post.

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    Dear Nokia,

    This is the feedback you should be listening to:

    * It's not about it being slow or a bit broken on launch day.
    * It's not about people saying Apple 'is teh b3st'.
    * It's not about jumping on 'a bandwagon' and kicking the big boys.

    It's about your most enthusiastic advocates feeling disappointed and frustrated that the service which so many want to succeed (myself included) looks a bit half-baked on the day you decided to wheel it out for an international press launch.

    So don't be tempted to play the 'what did you expect with all those users and devices' card and listen to the important messages in amongst the launch-day noise…

    Dammit. That should have been a post.

  • Steve Devo

    I have finaly installed the OVI app, and guess what it is still 7 clicks from the home screen to launching the app, I don't have that many apps installed.they need to fix this, for exampl eoffering to put it on the home screen …Steve (E66 Owner)

  • Steve Devo

    I have finaly installed the OVI app, and guess what it is still 7 clicks from the home screen to launching the app, I don't have that many apps installed.
    they need to fix this, for exampl eoffering to put it on the home screen …

    Steve (E66 Owner)

  • http://www.joshuapr.com PatrickatJPR

    Ben please can you clarify what your backside will be used to advertise?

    (Sorry to reduce the conversation to this - but I feel it’s an important question!)

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    I’ve always considered it to be a premium property… so a pretty exclusive brand.

    It’s a pretty expensive area… and, yes (before the inevitable jibes), this is because I charge by the square inch…

  • http://www.twitter.com/gabeuk Gabe

    Seems to be working OK now. Not spectacular, but functional.

    Main issue now is the apps. I want new stuff.

    As a paid-up Symbian fanboy I have stuff like Gravity, Mobbler, Shozu, Opera Mini, Nimbuzz, Truphone, SymTorrent, Mobitubia, etc, already.

    To be fair you get about the same range of apps on iPhone, Blackberry, WinMo, Android, and Symbian. Anything that gets popular on one platform will be ported to all the others pretty quickly.

  • http://www.joshuapr.com PatrickatJPR

    Ben please can you clarify what your backside will be used to advertise?(Sorry to reduce the conversation to this - but I feel it's an important question!)

  • http://www.joshuapr.com PatrickatJPR

    Ben please can you clarify what your backside will be used to advertise?

    (Sorry to reduce the conversation to this - but I feel it's an important question!)

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    I've always considered it to be a premium property… so a pretty exclusive brand.It's a pretty expensive area… and, yes (before the inevitable jibes), this is because I charge by the square inch…

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    I've always considered it to be a premium property… so a pretty exclusive brand.

    It's a pretty expensive area… and, yes (before the inevitable jibes), this is because I charge by the square inch…

  • http://www.twitter.com/gabeuk Gabe

    Seems to be working OK now. Not spectacular, but functional.Main issue now is the apps. I want new stuff.As a paid-up Symbian fanboy I have stuff like Gravity, Mobbler, Shozu, Opera Mini, Nimbuzz, Truphone, SymTorrent, Mobitubia, etc, already.To be fair you get about the same range of apps on iPhone, Blackberry, WinMo, Android, and Symbian. Anything that gets popular on one platform will be ported to all the others pretty quickly.

  • http://www.twitter.com/gabeuk Gabe

    Seems to be working OK now. Not spectacular, but functional.

    Main issue now is the apps. I want new stuff.

    As a paid-up Symbian fanboy I have stuff like Gravity, Mobbler, Shozu, Opera Mini, Nimbuzz, Truphone, SymTorrent, Mobitubia, etc, already.

    To be fair you get about the same range of apps on iPhone, Blackberry, WinMo, Android, and Symbian. Anything that gets popular on one platform will be ported to all the others pretty quickly.

  • http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/05/the-htc-magic-3-steps-from-perfect/ The Really Mobile Project » Blog Archive » The HTC Magic; 3 steps from perfect

    [...] Then there is of course Google’s own app store, the Android Marketplace. The few games and apps I’ve downloaded have proven useful and fun in equal measure. Extra points go to both Robo Defense and Abduction for quenching my Flight Control thirst that I seem to have acquired of late. The paid apps were simple enough to purchase too. I was hoping for operator billing to handle it all on the back end, but instead found that it was all run through Google Checkout. However, I popped my debit card details in once and that’s it, job done. Perhaps Ovi could learn something here, what do you say Ben? [...]

  • http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/06/ovi-store-comes-without-customer-service/ The Really Mobile Project » Blog Archive » Ovi Store: ‘Comes Without Customer Service’

    [...] week ago I made my first Ovi Store purchase. I’d played around with it on launch day and voiced my concerns, but to be fair to Nokia the download and install of free apps did work well. So… time to [...]

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