The great 0870 swindle…

by Ben Smith on 12th August 2010

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Mobile operators in the UK are charging many times more for calls to ‘local rate’ numbers than calls to real geographic numbers, excluding them from bundled allowances and providing another unpleasant surprise for unwitting consumers.

I moved house last weekend. Anyone following me on Twitter will know it all had to happen in a bit of a rush… We moved the boxes of stuff, but phone-lines and broadband are still firmly on the ‘todo’ list, being a lower priority than - for example - clothes. That’s meant we’re operating 100% by mobile phone.

Which is fine… normally.

However, being without a land-line for these calls has reminded me of the ludicrous system that operates in the UK where firms publish numbers beginning 0845, 0870 or 0844 which variously cost ‘local’ or ‘national’ rates. Except they don’t… not from a mobile phone. From a mobile they cost many times the cost of a call to a normal geographic number or another mobile. I’ve not tested them all, but whilst some networks do offer a warning message before connecting the call it’s little consolation to know that the next hour on hold is going to be charged-for.

The hero in all this is http://saynoto0870.com which provides a crowd-sourced list of ‘real’ phone number alternatives which I’ve been using to skip the practically premium-rate costs of making all the calls I’ve needed to today. For those in the know Simon Maddox has also created the 0870 app for several mobile platforms (non-iPhone variants seem to be MIA at present, but Android and Java versions have surfaced previously) which also uses the data from this site, but sat in front of a laptop today I was happy to do the process manually.

However, I shouldn’t have to.

Mobile networks don’t pay any more to place 0870 calls than fixed-line operators, yet the (huge) price differential only exists in the mobile world. Worse still, companies (who do get a share of the call cost) are increasingly opting to obscure or block calls to their normal geographic numbers. There are plenty of good reasons (both technical and marketing) why firms wouldn’t want to switch back to purely geographic numbers, but if they really wanted to make their services affordable to use they should switch to number ranges such as those beginning ’03′ which don’t attract the premium pricing and mobile operators should look to reduce costs and find ways to include these calls in bundles. Looking at this BBC article from 2006 it seems long overdue.

I’m going to fire a few emails off to network operators’ press offices to ask why they don’t…

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  • Pedro Stephano

    My thoughts exactly. I used to work in a sales team where all reps blindly called hospitals 0845 numbers all the time. When I told the admin manager of saynoto0870.com she directed all office staff and politely asked the reps (can’t tell reps nothin!) to use this whenever possible. Result - instant large decrease in the company phone bills.
    Now that I run my own company, I refuse to swell the pockets of O2 and whoever I’m calling (revenue sharing?!?!) So this website has a shortcut in *every* browser I use, plus I update the database whenever I see (by google/emails/mailshots/newspapers/whatever/wherever) a geo equivalent number of an 0845 / 0870.
    Also please note, dear blogger, that these non geo numbers are *NotFree* with most suppliers (BT is a sometime exception) and as a user of both cable landline and Vonage VOIP, I will actively avoid calling one of these numbers until I find an alternative. Also 0800 on a mobile is *NotFree* either. Being on hold can be 10p per minute at times on a landline, 40ppm on a mobile, and a customer service call these days might easily go for 10 minutes…..keeps a sensible lid on my costs! Both at home and in my mobile office.

  • http://twitter.com/kingstonpeople kingstonpeople.co.uk

    I love the fact that NHS GPs use these “local” 0844 and 0845. Where do they expect their patients to live?

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    The comment about other fixed-line and VoIP operators is a good one… It seems only BT is forced by OFCOM to offer these numbers at local / national rates.

    • Anonymous

      BT is a large part of the problem about mobile tariffs to these numbers.

      Apparently the mobile networks have been in dispute with BT for some time about its rates for connecting to these numbers, most of which it still hosts.

      An Ofcom document about resolving this dispute is about 180 pages long …

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  • http://twitter.com/03TALK Mr Why Pay?

    Hi - we totally agree, mobile operators are making profits here by being deliberately opaque about the call charges.

    Thats why we’ve launched a conferencing service using 03 numbers - the margins are much smaller but at least our customers won’t be getting any nasty surprises when they get the phone bill! If anyone is interested in using it, we’re called 03TALK :)

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  • http://twitter.com/Ving888 Ving Chou

    Very good article Ben and I 100% agree that mobile networks shouldn’t be so extortionate with some of their prices to call such numbers. If I need to make a call from my mobile to to such numbers, I always use http://saynoto0870.com to search for a landline number.

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